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when you went head to head with obama in 2008, the polls said 51% obama, 38% mccain. do you think you would have done better against the obama that was debating this week? >> i think so, piers, but, you know, it would sound like i am now trying to rewrite history or i would have done better. you know, i've never tried to do any of that looking back and certainly not in anger or bitterness. but i think it is true that during the 2008 campaign, the president or then-senator obama had no record to defend. and one of the reasons why mitt did so well in this debate was because mitt was, i think, very legitimately attacking his record, whether it be the $90 billion in subsidies for energy or a number of the other things that -- the failure of dodd/frank, and so the president had a record to defend this time. but, one, do not underestimate the president of the united states. he will come back strong. i think mitt has to be prepared for that. and also, as you mentioned, these job numbers will give him a bit of -- or something of a boost today. >> we've got the vp debate comin
when you went head to head with obama in 2008, the polls said 51% obama, 38% mccain. do you think you would have done better against the obama that was debating this week? >> i think so, piers, but, you know, it would sound like i am now trying to rewrite history or i would have done better. you know, i've never tried to do any of that looking back and certainly not in anger or bitterness. but i think it is true that during the 2008 campaign, the president or then-senator obama had no...
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obama got bin laden. i'll get big bird. you tell that so and so romney anyone who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his middle finger at the candidate. >> and you're going to count on one that we all know and love. >> reporter: big bird started his own big bird parody account. reacted by crying and showed up in a deployment split screen. >> i like pbs. i like big bird. >> reporter: his reaction was a scream. >> not going to keep spending on money to borrow money from china to pay for it. >> aghh! >> reporter: his response included a message. >> f-u-m-i -- >> reporter: a message spilled out for myth. and this isn't the first time that mitt romney has stalked big bird. >> i like big bird and bert and ernie for my grandkids to like. >> reporter: o. >> he got rid of your jobs, now he wants to get rid of big bird's job. >> reporter: day after the debate the president joined in. >> thank goodness somebody is finally getting tough on big bird! we didn't know that big bird was driving the federal deficit.
obama got bin laden. i'll get big bird. you tell that so and so romney anyone who bleeps with big bird bleeps with me. big bird even extended his middle finger at the candidate. >> and you're going to count on one that we all know and love. >> reporter: big bird started his own big bird parody account. reacted by crying and showed up in a deployment split screen. >> i like pbs. i like big bird. >> reporter: his reaction was a scream. >> not going to keep spending...
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obama left. >> what about obama's body language at the end. did he seem to be hunched over a little bit? >> he did. >> very interesting. >> again, i do feel like he realized he didn't do well. and there was a point even in his closing statements where you felt he had given up. he was so weary at that close and didn't do what i wanted him to do and that was to look straight at that cram. >> the next debate will be in a town hall setting. do you think we'll see a
obama left. >> what about obama's body language at the end. did he seem to be hunched over a little bit? >> he did. >> very interesting. >> again, i do feel like he realized he didn't do well. and there was a point even in his closing statements where you felt he had given up. he was so weary at that close and didn't do what i wanted him to do and that was to look straight at that cram. >> the next debate will be in a town hall setting. do you think we'll see a
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obama's october surprise. thanks, hilda. that's labor secretary hilda solis, who is responsible for the bureau of labor statistics which puts out the job numbers. >> i have the highest regard for our professional staff at the bureau of labor statistics, highly trained, highly skilled ph.d.s, economists, statisticians, folks that have been working in this area for many years and this is a methodology that's been used for decades and it is insulting when you hear people just cavalierly say that somehow we are manipulating numbers. i find that very insulting. >> hilda solis. for the record, here's how the process works. the raw data comes in on wednesdays, the week before each monthly report. the bureau of labor statistics gets around -- calls around 60,000 households and asks who's working. that's where the unemployment rate comes from. for job growth or job loss, the bls gathers payroll data from businesses. everyone who touches the data signs confidentiality agreements, documents are locked in safes, computers are encrypted,
obama's october surprise. thanks, hilda. that's labor secretary hilda solis, who is responsible for the bureau of labor statistics which puts out the job numbers. >> i have the highest regard for our professional staff at the bureau of labor statistics, highly trained, highly skilled ph.d.s, economists, statisticians, folks that have been working in this area for many years and this is a methodology that's been used for decades and it is insulting when you hear people just cavalierly say...
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that would be the lowest since president obama took office. now, before we get into what jack welch tweeted, here's how president obama reacted to the economic news. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy just to try to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country's come too far to turn back now. >> president obama on the campaign trail today. now here's what mitt romney said. >> the unemployment rate as you know this year has come down very, very slowly but it's come down nonetheless. the reason it's come down this year is primarily due to the fact that more and more people have just stopped looking for work. >> he went on to say the country can do better, which is about what you would expect him to say, same as you would expect president obama to say what he said. that's the way the two sides do it, year in, year out, campaign after campaign. what no one does, at least not until now, is look at the numbers and suggest the fix is in. th
that would be the lowest since president obama took office. now, before we get into what jack welch tweeted, here's how president obama reacted to the economic news. >> today's news should give us some encouragement. it shouldn't be an excuse for the other side to try to talk down the economy just to try to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country's come too far to turn back now. >> president obama on the campaign trail today. now here's what mitt romney said....
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what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that his agenda is finally getting traction in the economy. here's what the president had to say. >> there are too many middle class families that are still struggling to pay the bills. they were struggling long before the crisis hit. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try and talk down the economy to score a few political points. it's a reminder that this country has come too far to turn back now. >> that was friday right after the jobs numbers came out. i'll point out two meaningful things about those jobs numbers. one, you recall when his stimulus plan came out somebody in his administration said with the stimulus plan. it was never a promise, a projection. symbolically it's meaningful this is now below 8%. also now it's fallen for the first time not because fewer people are looking for jobs. actually, the number of people looking for jobs r
what's the obama white house saying about all of this? >> they're effectively saying that the economy, while it's still weak, is showing signs that the president's policies are working, that his agenda is finally getting traction in the economy. here's what the president had to say. >> there are too many middle class families that are still struggling to pay the bills. they were struggling long before the crisis hit. but today's news certainly is not an excuse to try and talk down...
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>> it was a mistake for president obama to ask him about that, it was wrong for president obama not to say, mitt romney, are you calling out the republicans who are voting for the jobs bill in the senate? president obama left a whole bunch of stuff on the table that he could have brought up. he absolutely should have asked him about it because it's a central issue when you talk about where we stand in this country. i simply say to ali, i know he's your guy. >> he's even saying preexistent conditions will be covered, but people who lose their job can keep their health insurance for a time. that's not what people think of when they think of a preexisting condition. >> it's something that when republicans repeal obamacare and try to replace it, they'll have to come up with that replacement so people don't gain in the system -- >> so was he lying or mistaken about his own policy? >> there is a provision in there, anderson, that will cover a portion of the people who don't have health insurance. if you paid your premiums and you have health insurance, you can't be turned down. what he's tal
>> it was a mistake for president obama to ask him about that, it was wrong for president obama not to say, mitt romney, are you calling out the republicans who are voting for the jobs bill in the senate? president obama left a whole bunch of stuff on the table that he could have brought up. he absolutely should have asked him about it because it's a central issue when you talk about where we stand in this country. i simply say to ali, i know he's your guy. >> he's even saying...
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compare the obama recovery to reagan. obama's behind by $6.9 million jobs and probably more important, it's per capita. disposable income that a lot of social scientists have found is the real key to getting re-elected and that number doesn't look too good for obama. >> you raised a number. the symbolism and how people feel about it. let's look at a cnn poll from last month. 67% of registered voters expect conditions will be good a year from now. daniel, what do you think? 31% say worse. are they right, are they wrong? >> the economy will be better, but it's a question of how much better. let's not forget obama promised if he enacted his so-called stimulus, by today, the unemployment rate would be down to 5.5%. so, something's gone wrong. if you look at the minneapolis federal reserve website, there's an interactive feature that allows you to look at all the the business cycles since world war ii. it's the worst gdp performance and jobs perform ann of any president. things are getting better, but at such an anemic rate. >
compare the obama recovery to reagan. obama's behind by $6.9 million jobs and probably more important, it's per capita. disposable income that a lot of social scientists have found is the real key to getting re-elected and that number doesn't look too good for obama. >> you raised a number. the symbolism and how people feel about it. let's look at a cnn poll from last month. 67% of registered voters expect conditions will be good a year from now. daniel, what do you think? 31% say worse....
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that is not a number barack obama should be crowing about. not a number mitt romney should be accusatory about. barack obama has created more jobs while in office than were lost, but mitt romney points out correctly, they are not the right quality. no, this is not morning in america. it's also not a disaster. >> ethan, jump in here. are you encouraged? >> i am. i totally agree with ali. mitt romney's been saying that we've been having x month of unemployment above 8%. he can't that anymore. on top of that, the president can say he's created over a million private sector jobs, so he has some new powerful rhetorical arrows that are in his quiver. >> when i saw this today, i thought this fits perfectly into this narrative of a country that's divided because it's a little bit good news. not a lot, and it leaves everybody with room to argue. >> symbolically, it was a victory for the white house to get that unemployment rate under 8% along with just about everybody else. i predicted that would be the key to obama winning re-election, but objectivel
that is not a number barack obama should be crowing about. not a number mitt romney should be accusatory about. barack obama has created more jobs while in office than were lost, but mitt romney points out correctly, they are not the right quality. no, this is not morning in america. it's also not a disaster. >> ethan, jump in here. are you encouraged? >> i am. i totally agree with ali. mitt romney's been saying that we've been having x month of unemployment above 8%. he can't that...
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obama claims. his program for trade and energy development, i think he was spot on in the debates in that regard, and that could create somewhere between 5 million to 10 million jobs pretty easily, and so i think that if we got the romney plan on energy and trade and got the obama plan on social insurance, americans would be very, very happy. unfortunately, they are only going to get one of these guys, and so they are only going to get half a loaf. >> nice to see you all. have a great weekend, everybody. >> thanks. >> up next, a career reboot. >> i was happy that i received the offer, happy i got to interview and happy i waited and took out all the risk. >> that's right. the going back to school gamble and how it's paying off for some job seekers. ♪ ♪ [ male announcer ] you've been years in the making. and there are many years ahead. join the millions of members who've chon an aarp medicare supplement insurance plan insured by unitedhealthcare insurance company. go long. for their "destination
obama claims. his program for trade and energy development, i think he was spot on in the debates in that regard, and that could create somewhere between 5 million to 10 million jobs pretty easily, and so i think that if we got the romney plan on energy and trade and got the obama plan on social insurance, americans would be very, very happy. unfortunately, they are only going to get one of these guys, and so they are only going to get half a loaf. >> nice to see you all. have a great...
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you can watch the rest of that live on cnn.com. >>> his opponent, president obama, and the obama campaign are talking campaign funds. president obama getting a boost on one hand and doing some damage control on the other. he's riding high on lower unemployment numbers, but also trying to recover from his poorly reviewed showing at the first presidential debate with mitt romney. meanwhile, romney's team claiming a big supporter bounce since the debate, saying they raised more than $12 million in the past 48 hours. >>> the highest profile islamic terror suspect in great britain is now in the united states. al masri and four others appeared in federal courtrooms just hours after landing on american soil. >>> an extraordinary trial in vatican city has ended with a guilty verdict. the former butler to pope benedict xvi was sentenced to 18 months in prison for stealing confidential church documents and passing them on to an italian journalist. a vatican spokesman says the pope will most likely pardon him. >>> gas prices in california jumped again overnight. drivers are now paying an average of
you can watch the rest of that live on cnn.com. >>> his opponent, president obama, and the obama campaign are talking campaign funds. president obama getting a boost on one hand and doing some damage control on the other. he's riding high on lower unemployment numbers, but also trying to recover from his poorly reviewed showing at the first presidential debate with mitt romney. meanwhile, romney's team claiming a big supporter bounce since the debate, saying they raised more than $12...
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is it what president obama promised when he was candidate obama four years ago? no. but is it better than where we've been for the last 40 months? yes. i also think that we're going to see how this momentum thing plays out because we have so very many events coming one right after the other. we have a vice presidential debate in a few days followed by another presidential debate. we have a lot to see yet. >> it is widely agreed, speaking of debates, that mitt romney won the first debate, but did americans, particularly undecided voters get the whole story. cnn did some fact checking on comments made at the debate this week. i want you to listen to this on the topic of the deficit, first. >> mitt romney claims that even with his tax cuts, he will not add to the deficit. >> my number one principle there is no tax that that will add to the deficit. i will not put in place a deficit thdea tax that adds to the deficit. my plan is not to put in place any tax cut that will add to the deficit. >> we want to look at the facts here, again. mitt romney has not laid out specific
is it what president obama promised when he was candidate obama four years ago? no. but is it better than where we've been for the last 40 months? yes. i also think that we're going to see how this momentum thing plays out because we have so very many events coming one right after the other. we have a vice presidential debate in a few days followed by another presidential debate. we have a lot to see yet. >> it is widely agreed, speaking of debates, that mitt romney won the first debate,...
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not enough for barack obama to crow about. not that much for mitt romney to sink his teeth into. >> reporter: barack obama will crow about this number and already has. you know, we did see a big gain in this household survey. here's one of the problems with the number that came out. the big gain in jobs, ali, about 600,000 of those jobs were an increase in part time work. now, look, working part time is better than not having a job at all no, question about it. but try feeding your family, try paying your medical bills, try paying for all your other expenses like your mortgage with a 20 to 25 hour job. so, look. i think the american people still believe as i do, it's still a pretty miserable labor market out there. it's getting a little better but not a whole lot. >> diane swank is a chief economist. she joins us from chicago. diane let's talk about it. 7.8% unemployment rate. an improvement but we're not out of the wood yet. let's dealing with the real numbers. 1.1 million people unemployed in september. 40% of them have been
not enough for barack obama to crow about. not that much for mitt romney to sink his teeth into. >> reporter: barack obama will crow about this number and already has. you know, we did see a big gain in this household survey. here's one of the problems with the number that came out. the big gain in jobs, ali, about 600,000 of those jobs were an increase in part time work. now, look, working part time is better than not having a job at all no, question about it. but try feeding your...
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he just revelled in it and stayed and stayed and stayed, and obama left. >> what about obama's body language at the end though, did he seem -- he seemed to be sort of hunched over a little bit. >> he did. i thought that was very interesting. again, i do feel like he realized he didn't do well, and there was a point, even in his closing statements, where you felt like he'd given up. he was so weary at that close, and he didn't do what i wanted him to do and that's look straight at that camera and make that appeal. >> right. >> so the next debate will be in a town hall setting. do you think we'll see different sort of body language. >> interested to see if romney can keep up his energy like he did so well here and very interested to see if obama comes up to the bar and he does so well when there's an audience. i want to see some of that charisma and warmth. >> all right. always very interesting. thank you so much, patty. appreciate you coming in. >> my pleasure. >> so that was just fun. >>> but a serious look at the colorado debate. what are all the comedians, of course, saying about it? this
he just revelled in it and stayed and stayed and stayed, and obama left. >> what about obama's body language at the end though, did he seem -- he seemed to be sort of hunched over a little bit. >> he did. i thought that was very interesting. again, i do feel like he realized he didn't do well, and there was a point, even in his closing statements, where you felt like he'd given up. he was so weary at that close, and he didn't do what i wanted him to do and that's look straight at...
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the obama campaign cash that was raised last month. september proved to be a lucrative month for the president's re-election campaign. democrats raised $181 million. that's a record. joining me live from washington, peter hamby. that's a whole lot of cash raised. very amazing. say many, and all in one month. how was it done? big donors, small donors, what? >> the campaign says 98% of this money came from people giving $250 or less. sptd was a very big month for democrats. polls show that the convention really brought home the democratic base and these numbers just reaffirm it. this is the biggest monthly total of this campaign. this is the money that the obama campaign and the democratic national committee have collected together. it means they're only about $50 million short of raising $1 billion for this whole campaign. so they're almost certainly going to outpace that in the next month. this is a big symbolic lift for the obama campaign after that really bad debate. they had the jobs numbers on friday and this today. it helps the ca
the obama campaign cash that was raised last month. september proved to be a lucrative month for the president's re-election campaign. democrats raised $181 million. that's a record. joining me live from washington, peter hamby. that's a whole lot of cash raised. very amazing. say many, and all in one month. how was it done? big donors, small donors, what? >> the campaign says 98% of this money came from people giving $250 or less. sptd was a very big month for democrats. polls show that...
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. >>> and president obama getting a boost on one hand, doing damage control on the other. he is riding high on the unemployment numbers, but also trying to recover from his poorly reviewed showing from his first presidential debate, from mitt romney. meanwhile, romney's team claiming a big boost from the debate, saying they raised more than 48 million in the past four hours. >>> the family of a fallen border patrol agent attended an emotional vigil last night in arizona. the fbi says that friendly fire likely killed agent nicholas ivie. another agent was wounded in the incident. the fbi says it is investigating what is going on. but it appears that only the two agents were involved in that gunfire. >>> and an extraordinary trial in vatican city ending with a guilty verdict. the former butler to pope benedict xvi was sentenced to 18 months in prison for stealing confidential documents and passing them on. the vatican says the pope will most likely pardon him. >>> and leaders saying this man killed soldiers before defecting, they heard gunshots before the soldier crossed the
. >>> and president obama getting a boost on one hand, doing damage control on the other. he is riding high on the unemployment numbers, but also trying to recover from his poorly reviewed showing from his first presidential debate, from mitt romney. meanwhile, romney's team claiming a big boost from the debate, saying they raised more than 48 million in the past four hours. >>> the family of a fallen border patrol agent attended an emotional vigil last night in arizona. the...
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obama is so far ahead that he wanted to tighten up just to be exciting. just to create a little bit. >> jon: that's a very generous interpretation of that. >> he is so far out, it's like you know, you're in the third quarter, up by five touchdowns, just let them catch up and then we'll bang them. you. >> jon: you don't want to appear in any way greedy with your lead. you want to give a little back. so basically he's redistributing his lead. >> uh-huh, that's right. that's what he did. >> jon: very good. i find this whole thing together, and got you out on time. killing kennedy is on the book shelves now. please buy it because lord knows this man needs money. bill o'reilly. >> i have to get it captioning sponsored by comedy central captioned by media access group at wgbh access.wgbh.org that's our show. at 11:00, and remember, the rumble 2012.com, it's going to be at 8:00 p.m. saturday, eastern, he's going downtime. boom. >> my last point, will learn something every night on this show. and all these shows.
obama is so far ahead that he wanted to tighten up just to be exciting. just to create a little bit. >> jon: that's a very generous interpretation of that. >> he is so far out, it's like you know, you're in the third quarter, up by five touchdowns, just let them catch up and then we'll bang them. you. >> jon: you don't want to appear in any way greedy with your lead. you want to give a little back. so basically he's redistributing his lead. >> uh-huh, that's right....
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mitt smoked obama! metaphorically, of course, mormons can't smoke! and folks, after last night's debate in denver our image of these two men has completely changed. and i am not the only one who knows it. >> it looked like romney wanted to be there and president obama didn't want to be there. >> stephen: yes! it was like obama wasn't even there. he hasn't done this poorly since he debated clint eastwood. (laughter) meanwhile-- (cheers and applause) meanwhile, romney was the alpha mitt, slapping obama around. and, anyone else who got in mitt away. >> i'm sorry, jim, i'm going to stop the subsidy to pbs. i will stop other things. i like pbs. i like big bird, i actually like you too. but i'm not going to keep on spending money for things to borrow from china to pay for it. >> stephen: he just told the moderator who works at pbs, i'm going to throw your ass out on the street, old man! you-- (cheers and applause) you, not only you-- but all those freeloading muppets. that takes not just one ball, but two, two enormous balls! (applause) but, folks, as much
mitt smoked obama! metaphorically, of course, mormons can't smoke! and folks, after last night's debate in denver our image of these two men has completely changed. and i am not the only one who knows it. >> it looked like romney wanted to be there and president obama didn't want to be there. >> stephen: yes! it was like obama wasn't even there. he hasn't done this poorly since he debated clint eastwood. (laughter) meanwhile-- (cheers and applause) meanwhile, romney was the alpha...
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obama, the obama campaign was running ads on that. how romney wants to cut the taxes as romney explained very clearly in the debate the other night, no, i am not cutting taxes on the richest. what i want to do is lower rates overall by 20%. and eliminate loopholes, deductions, exemptions, that sort of thing. which i think all serious people who look at the tax code think needs to be done. it's the richest of all by the way who take the most advantage of tax deductions. that is a fairer way of looking at t maybe if you have a lot of deductions you don't want to get rid of them. but you always feel like with reductions, somebody else is getting a better deal than you are. mitt romney hasn't specified which deductions. i can think of a few we should get rid of like deductions for state and local taxes. why should the rest of the country be supporting the high tax rates of california and new york? but anyway, that's my position, not mitt romney's and he also explained in the debate, this is my general proposal. we'll argue about it. we'll
obama, the obama campaign was running ads on that. how romney wants to cut the taxes as romney explained very clearly in the debate the other night, no, i am not cutting taxes on the richest. what i want to do is lower rates overall by 20%. and eliminate loopholes, deductions, exemptions, that sort of thing. which i think all serious people who look at the tax code think needs to be done. it's the richest of all by the way who take the most advantage of tax deductions. that is a fairer way of...
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in ways it is obama's fault. this is something to think about as you think about how the house works and what kind of tools we should build on the outside. when i look at the different categories of congressional information, it to the things we worked hard on, one is taking advantage of political pressures that exist. nonprofits would love to be able to create political pressure. we take what we can get. for house reform, with the majority changing hands twice in the past six years, a lot has changed recently. that puts the house and a more responsive posture which is good. the other thing is a broad norms are around how housing should function. two things to point out. one is a work like this and the transparency caucus and the housing receptive to outside groups in the public and these questions should be relative to how they function. it is not about raw political power. it is about thinking about how public dialogue should function. one other thing is that some light has been working closely with the nationa
in ways it is obama's fault. this is something to think about as you think about how the house works and what kind of tools we should build on the outside. when i look at the different categories of congressional information, it to the things we worked hard on, one is taking advantage of political pressures that exist. nonprofits would love to be able to create political pressure. we take what we can get. for house reform, with the majority changing hands twice in the past six years, a lot has...
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president obama's policies have not worked. as vice president biden admitted, the middle-class has been buried in the last four years. another four years would does barry the middle class even more. during the 2008 debate, then senator obama assured us that he fully understood our problems and that he had the right solution. he promised to make health care more affordable. yeah president obama promise to get our spending under control by cutting the deficits in half. he also was so confident that shortly after taking office, president obama said he would fix the economy in three years or face a one term proposition. today he has broken those promises. now his words have no credibility. midway to the debate, the president realized that he had an president for the past four years and it was his policies and his agenda that failed to produce any of the results that a promised us as a candidate. president obama had not shown the kind of leadership we need. the face crisis today. which requires a steady hand. in a leader focus on th
president obama's policies have not worked. as vice president biden admitted, the middle-class has been buried in the last four years. another four years would does barry the middle class even more. during the 2008 debate, then senator obama assured us that he fully understood our problems and that he had the right solution. he promised to make health care more affordable. yeah president obama promise to get our spending under control by cutting the deficits in half. he also was so confident...
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money to obama in 2008. now he has decided that obama hates treasurys so he gives a lot of money to romney. he is still a donor. he has a lot of interest either way. i do not really care about that distinction. and frankly, i actually found it quite shocking to see governor romney in a speech taking a set of positions about the middle east that, to say the least, box him in in a way presidents do not usually want to be boxed in. it was a rather tight commitment that mitt romney made with that donor in the front row. i am troubled by that, and i have an argument with a friend of mine. he has other priorities as well. i do not think it matters. you want to create a structure where elected officials are not wholly dependent on a given donor or not largely dependent. you want them to be in a situation where if they are in office and they really want x, y, z, you want the elected officials to go as senator mccain seriously did "get out of my office." >> so, there i would make the republican plea for judicial mode
money to obama in 2008. now he has decided that obama hates treasurys so he gives a lot of money to romney. he is still a donor. he has a lot of interest either way. i do not really care about that distinction. and frankly, i actually found it quite shocking to see governor romney in a speech taking a set of positions about the middle east that, to say the least, box him in in a way presidents do not usually want to be boxed in. it was a rather tight commitment that mitt romney made with that...
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president obama was then-senator obama -- guest: your command of the numbers is terrific. the question about the media. it is linked, let's be honest -- you have to have strong voices inside the democratic party and strong voices outside in the movements of our time and independent media to call the mainstream media, and we can discuss what mainstream media means, but there is a mainstream establishment media which has as its working premise the idea of the cult of balance, something our media columnist, eric alterman, has written a lot about. if someone went on to the floor of congress and said the earth is flat, the media would write about both sides as if both were true. i mentioned norm ornstein earlier. he is no liberal progressive. he is sort of right of center, he is at the american enterprise institute. thomas mann at brookings wrote a book that had a large section about the failures of the media to call out untruths. we have a lot more fact checking in the media, which has its ups and downs. at the debate last night, they fact-checked obama on the $5 trillion defi
president obama was then-senator obama -- guest: your command of the numbers is terrific. the question about the media. it is linked, let's be honest -- you have to have strong voices inside the democratic party and strong voices outside in the movements of our time and independent media to call the mainstream media, and we can discuss what mainstream media means, but there is a mainstream establishment media which has as its working premise the idea of the cult of balance, something our media...
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you mentioned appealing president obama's health care reform law. that is something that will continue to be hotly debated. we have two more debates left. there is a lot of uncertainty about not only what obamas's second term will look like, but what a mitt romney first term will look like as he takes the white house in november. host: an e-mail sent from ohio. isn't the question of wages more important than jobs? the person making minimum wage is no better off and someone receiving welfare. to the point about wages, what do we find out there from the release of the report? guest: i do not know the exact details of the report in terms of wages going up or down. he makes a good point. wages are important. welfare is something that president obama and mitt romney have been trading barbs over as to whether the president is someone capable of turning this country into a place where people do not have to rely so much on government subsidies because they are out of work. i think that issue is very politically charged and we will see it debated in the comi
you mentioned appealing president obama's health care reform law. that is something that will continue to be hotly debated. we have two more debates left. there is a lot of uncertainty about not only what obamas's second term will look like, but what a mitt romney first term will look like as he takes the white house in november. host: an e-mail sent from ohio. isn't the question of wages more important than jobs? the person making minimum wage is no better off and someone receiving welfare. to...